Interesting Flame Out In Riverchasers
Well I did not get anyone from my list at my Riverchasers BBT table. See the three hands below that I did get over about a 10 hand span early.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2554598354: Riverchasers Online Tour #11 (17986090), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:22:54 ET - 2007/05/31
Seat 1: Don Morris (1,500)
Seat 2: boneyardxxx (1,510)
Seat 3: NightRanger (2,150)
Seat 4: DaBag (1,175)
Seat 5: Blinders (1,755)
Seat 6: MoonShadow58 (830)
Seat 7: dpweave (1,420), is sitting out
Seat 8: drmindbendr (1,600)
Seat 9: snakster (1,545)
DaBag posts the small blind of 25
Blinders posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blinders [Kh Kc]
MoonShadow58 folds
dpweave folds
drmindbendr calls 50
snakster folds
Don Morris folds
boneyardxxx folds
NightRanger folds
DaBag calls 25
Blinders raises to 185
drmindbendr has 15 seconds left to act
drmindbendr calls 135
DaBag calls 135
*** FLOP *** [7h Qc 5c]
DaBag checks
Blinders bets 450
drmindbendr has 15 seconds left to act
drmindbendr raises to 900
DaBag folds
Blinders raises to 1,570, and is all in
dpweave has returned
drmindbendr calls 515, and is all in
Blinders shows [Kh Kc]
drmindbendr shows [Ac As]
Uncalled bet of 155 returned to Blinders
*** TURN *** [7h Qc 5c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7h Qc 5c 3s] [7s]
Blinders shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
drmindbendr shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
drmindbendr wins the pot (3,385) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
So this is just a typical KK vs. AA hand. If AA open raises or reraises preflop we are all-in for sure, but instead he goes for the super-rare double slowplay of rockets preflop. I can get away from an over pair in a cash game pretty easy, but look how the stack sizes are already pretty light even though it is very early in an MTT. I had chipped up a bit to this point, but only have 35BBs. When I raise to 185 pre, the callers are calling 135 which is close to 1/10th of either ones stack. So I throw out a typical preflop raise with a big hand, and I am close to taking away the "rule of 10" set drawing odds this early in the MTT (I actually wished I had raised 200-250 total just after I did it, but 185 is pretty close to 200). With an ace on the flop I might get away from this. In a highly coordinated board, possibly. In a cash game, I know I can depending on the read, based on the depths of the stacks compared to the pot. In this situation though, I am going to the felt. There is just too good of a chance that I am against AQ, KQ, or a draw to let this go. If they hit the set, they barely had the odds to draw to it, even if they knew they would stack me after hitting it. Also in an MTT, I would much rather be on the overpair vs. the underpair drawing to a set, because of the limited possible trials that can be taken. So I pushed figuring I am ahead or I am looking at a lucky set or some draw, but was very surprised by the AA. If I am able to get away on this hand at all, AA made a huge mistake in how it was played. I was just in a very bad spot, oh well.
So down to $130 I get KK again.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2554636207: Riverchasers Online Tour #11 (17986090), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:27:41 ET - 2007/05/31
Seat 1: Don Morris (1,700)
Seat 2: boneyardxxx (1,635)
Seat 3: NightRanger (2,275)
Seat 4: DaBag (990)
Seat 5: Blinders (130)
Seat 6: MoonShadow58 (580)
Seat 7: dpweave (1,420)
Seat 8: drmindbendr (3,260)
Seat 9: snakster (1,495)
snakster posts the small blind of 25
Don Morris posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blinders [Ks Kd]
boneyardxxx folds
NightRanger folds
DaBag folds
Blinders raises to 130, and is all in
Shorty jam always looks a bit suspicious
MoonShadow58 folds
dpweave calls 130
drmindbendr folds
snakster folds
Don Morris folds
Blinders shows [Ks Kd]
dpweave shows [4s 4c]
Sweet
*** FLOP *** [Ad 4d 7s]
I hate cowboys
*** TURN *** [Ad 4d 7s] [Kc]
I love cowboys
Blinders: lol
*** RIVER *** [Ad 4d 7s Kc] [Ac]
Blinders shows a full house, Kings full of Aces
dpweave shows a full house, Fours full of Aces
Blinders wins the pot (335) with a full house, Kings full of Aces
I fold my BB to a raise and catch JTs in the SB.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2554659527: Riverchasers Online Tour #11 (17986090), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:30:39 ET - 2007/05/31
Seat 1: Don Morris (1,875)
Seat 2: boneyardxxx (1,560)
Seat 3: NightRanger (2,250)
Seat 4: DaBag (990)
Seat 5: Blinders (285)
Seat 6: MoonShadow58 (430)
Seat 7: dpweave (1,365)
Seat 8: drmindbendr (3,260)
Seat 9: snakster (1,470)
Blinders posts the small blind of 25
MoonShadow58 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blinders [Th Jh]
dpweave calls 50
drmindbendr calls 50
snakster folds
Don Morris folds
boneyardxxx folds
NightRanger folds
DaBag folds
Blinders calls 25
I am looking for any piece/draw before committing everthing
MoonShadow58 checks
*** FLOP *** [9h Ad Jc]
Have a piece, but hate that Ace in a 4-way pot.
Blinders checks
MoonShadow58 checks
dpweave checks
drmindbendr checks
That was pretty nice with all the backdoor opportunities, plus there is a decent chance I am actually ahead right now.
*** TURN *** [9h Ad Jc] [Qh]
Could a better card have dropped? (well a J would have been nice). Lets try to count the outs. 2 outs to the mortal sraight flush nuts. 7 more flush outs, 6 straight outs, 2 outs to trips, and assumming I can push someone off a King if I jam here, 3 more outs to the 10 potentially. That's about 20 outs total, obvious jam.
Blinders bets 235, and is all in
MoonShadow58 calls 235
dpweave raises to 600
drmindbendr has 15 seconds left to act
drmindbendr folds
MoonShadow58 calls 145, and is all in
dpweave shows [Qs Ac]
Blinders shows [Th Jh]
MoonShadow58 shows [Qd 5d]
Sixteen of my outs are gold, which is worse than I expected, but I just bet $265 for a $905 pot With $905 I'll be back!
Uncalled bet of 220 returned to dpweave
*** RIVER *** [9h Ad Jc Qh] [4s]
dpweave shows two pair, Aces and Queens
MoonShadow58 shows a pair of Queens
dpweave wins the side pot (290) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Blinders shows a pair of Jacks
dpweave wins the main pot (905) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Blinders stands up
IGHN
MoonShadow58 stands up
Labels: BBT, RiverChasers
posted by Blinders @ 6:39 PM
3 comments
3 Comments:
in other words, u didn't get KK vs QQ or AA vs KK and ur KK went down in flames twice.
um so how are u gonna get past that superstar table again?
Good questions, Smokkee. Meanwhile I'm still trying to figure out how Mr. I Never Go Broke With Just One Pair managed to lose almost his entire stack with just the overpair Kings, even when his hu opponent raised his big bet on the flop. Not sure I get how the fact that this is a tournament and not a cash game changes anything in this regard. I think I might have made the same play with the first KK hand so I'm not trying to slam the play per se, but for the guy who always takes pride in that whole one-pair-is-nothing thing, that was a surprising choice of a move me thought.
Hoy,
I tried to explain it the best I could and I am no MTT expert, but don't you need to push your edges hard in an MTT. When the stacks get small (already only 1/3 of what a cash game stack is), how do you laydown an overpair there. People are way more aggressive in MTTs than cash, so I am always less of a beleiver in an MTT, and you dont c-bet 1/3 of your stack in a cash game typically. These are all huge differences.
No one puts him on an AA right there, and I don't slam his play other than the double slow play preflop. We all get it all-in preflop with the worst with KK vs AA unless you have a slowplayer. I am the only one that I know of that has ever folded KK preflop, on reading an opponent for AA.
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