Tuesday, January 02, 2007

It's Been A While

Sorry for the lack of updates. I was on vacation over X-Mas and got real sick afterwards. I am finally feeling better, but have not played any online poker since my last post. I did play some live poker at a Indian casino called "Spotlight 29". During my time at Spotlight 29, I saw the worst river call in my life, and did something that makes me question just how honest I am. Now not being honest is a good thing in poker, but it is also nice to be able to sleep at night. After I explain what I did, I would like to hear your thoughts, but first to the worst call ever.

I was playing 1/2 NL cash games, and the play was pretty horrible. I was not getting cards, so I was just struggling to stay even, then it happened. I had some BS hand like 85o in the BB and saw a free flop. Flop comes QT6 rainbow and it checks around. An 8 drops giving me third pair, but with 4 others left, I am not confident so I check and it checks around again. River brings a 3 and I think I might actually be good, so I bet $6 and get three callers. The first caller has a T which will end up being the best hand. The second caller (first overcall) had King high. The last caller (second overcall), and an extra bad player had J2o for Jack f-ing high no kicker????? I have no idea how you can think your ahead with Jack high on the river after a bet and two calls but this retard did. So my third pair only beat 2/3 of the callers, but at least I got to see the worst call of my life. Now for the moral dilemma.

When I lived in Vegas many years ago, I would play a lot of BlackJack in the off strip casinos. There was one in particular called the Railroad Pass that had $1 BJ and the worst BJ dealers in town. New dealers tend to work the off strip locations before moving on to the strip. The dealers were so bad that they would make tons of mistakes. They would pay the players when the lost, and sometimes take the players money when they won. When they tried to wrongly take my money, I would speak up and correct them. When they paid me when they should not, I would stay quiet. I justified this by thinking it's the price of doing business when you employ bad dealers, so I could justify not speaking up. They would make so many mistakes though it was easy a +EV game because of this.

So back to Spotlight 29. I did play some BJ there, and the dealers were bad, and they did pay my 19 when the dealer had 20, for $6 I did not deserve, but this is not what I am talking about. It was when I was cashing out at poker for the last time. I had $134 in $2 chips, and took them to the front. The lady counted it as $174 (an extra row of chips that were not there). I kept quiet, assuming she would notice the mistake. She didn't, and I took the money and split. I don't think I would have done this at a place I would regularly play at, but I doubt I will be back at Spotlight for years if ever. So I took the money and ran. Does that make me dishonest? Would anyone else not have spoken up and corrected the mistake. I guess the dividing factor is that casinos are out to take my money, so why should I not take theirs?


At 8:42 AM, Blogger WillWonka said...

For what it is worth, YES, it is dishonest. I'm not here to judge you or anybody for that fact; but just the fact that they are in the business to take your money does not really justify you taking theirs.

McDonalds is in the business of taking your money... Walmart is in the business of taking your money.. etc...etc..

This was obviously not a big amount of money and really won't make a material impact on anybody.

At 8:50 AM, Blogger TenMile said...

I read once that "He who questions his honor, has none."

At 9:42 AM, Blogger smokkee said...

it's not a lot of money. but, that poor SOB is probably gonna have to cover the $40 he overpaid you.

wonka makes a good point. aren't all businesses out to get your hard earned cash? they're not out to cheat you. at least most legitimate businesses aren't.

At 10:14 AM, Blogger Lifesagrind said...

Yes it was dishonest, and the fact that you are posting it means your conscience is getting to you.

Nothing you can do about it now. Live and learn.

At 12:13 PM, Blogger Schaubs said...

You could always go back and return the money that isn't yours... but I really don't think its worth your time. I mean if you noticed it right there and then, you should have probably returned it. If you didn't notice it until you got home, then that's life, and I'd chalk it up as "lucky" for you and "unlucky" for the person that screwed up. Live and learn.

At 12:53 PM, Blogger Blinders said...

I have never seen a cashier make such a big mistake before. If I tell her right away, does she try harder next time to get it right? If she has to pull $40 out of her pocket, or gets in a little trouble, she will do a better job next time. I am just trying to help the casino employees become better.

At least that's how I justify it.

Prolly will not do it again though, I did bother me.

Any comments on not correcting a retarded BJ dealer?

At 1:16 PM, Blogger Guin said...

I classify things like this as immaterial and therefore make up for the times I lose stuff!

Put the cash in your pocket and never think of it again.

Not dishonest as it is the company's responsibility to make sure that people are able to do their job correctly. They are able to accept these small losses in any regular sized business.

No way the person who made the mistake is going to get more than a stern look for making this kind of mistake.

If you really feel bad you could donate the cash to a charity. I am actually my own favorite charity!

At 1:20 PM, Blogger Marshall said...

Obviously there is no grey area here.. it is dishonest and stealing and you are a thief. Period. Now as long as your willing to be a theif then that is ok. We all justify stealing.. how many people have a copy of a video or a computer game? A music song? It is all stealing. If your willing to live as a theif then it is ok.. if not then return it.. I think your ok with living with the theft so good for you.

At 12:45 AM, Blogger Approche Pratique said...

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